Days like this I wonder what Phant and Steltek are up to

Days like this I wonder what Phant and Steltek are up to

Postby Agent » Sat Aug 12, 2017 3:08 pm

Which one is more likely to be in a Nazi march?
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Re: Days like this I wonder what Phant and Steltek are up to

Postby shadowmimiiru » Sat Aug 12, 2017 11:55 pm

So since neither agrees with your ideology they must be racist asshats willing to murder? Geez, Agent, way to be a tolerant and understanding person.

Note 1: Yes I came in today because I knew I would see a post like this one.
Note 2: Yes, James Fields should be listed as a terrorist.
Note 3: Conservative does not equal hate-bag douche.
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Re: Days like this I wonder what Phant and Steltek are up to

Postby Agent » Sun Aug 13, 2017 2:07 pm

All conservatives are bad; I disagree with their ideology because it is inherently evil. I completely believe that Phant and Steltek (and Pere and Sorce and all the other gross assholes we used to hang out with) would murder, or worse, if they thought they could get away with it. They have no true morality, only fear of the afterlife.

You're not a fucking moron so I don't know why you're pulling that "you should be tolerant of my intolerance" thing.
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Re: Days like this I wonder what Phant and Steltek are up to

Postby shadowmimiiru » Sun Aug 13, 2017 8:48 pm

Agent wrote:All conservatives are bad; I disagree with their ideology because it is inherently evil. I completely believe that Phant and Steltek (and Pere and Sorce and all the other gross assholes we used to hang out with) would murder, or worse if they thought they could get away with it. They have no true morality, only fear of the afterlife.

You're not a fucking moron so I don't know why you're pulling that "you should be tolerant of my intolerance" thing.


Explain how conservative is evil? Not Neo-Con, not Tea-Party, not alt-right. Explain how having a conservative ideology is evil. Explain how an ideology based on the concept of organic change and evolution of society over forced (i.e. against the individual's will) change is evil? explain how private ownership, personal wealth, and individualism is evil? Explain to me how a belief that the individual should have complete sovereignty over herself is wrong and evil?

I look at liberals and I do not see a belief in the individual. I see a hive conscience, a mob that will burn, destroy, and eliminate any and all who disagree with the opinion of the mob, the hive. I look at liberals and I see - to use my geekiness - the Borg.

"But, Amanda," you say. "Liberals want everyone to have self-expression to let everyone be equal to let everyone express themselves!"

Do they, I mentioned to my daughter that we buy organic because GMOs aren't required to be labeled and there is not enough research or evidence to yet prove that they are safe. That is my opinion, I do not foist it on others (aside from my daughter who I have explained that it is my opinion). Yet, a boy (god I'm old) wearing a "Not my President" shirt with Trump in clown make-up follows me through the store calling me a retard, a moron, a closed-minded bigot.

I say to a co-worker (who asked me my opinion!) that I do not believe in abortion unless it is rape or a mother's life is in jeporady but that I have no right to tell another person how to live so whatever. She - an self-avowed socialist - then tells me I am a trader to women, that my daughter should be taken away so she isn't victim to my toxic mentality.

"But Amanda," you say. "Liberals want social justice and care for everyone."

This is why I see the liberal store owners on 6th street calling the cops on the homeless in the area. This is why I see people with Bernie or Hillary bumper stickers whip off homeless folk under the bridge asking for a few cents or a couple of small bills. This is why I see people with Romney bumper stickers pull over and give food and money these people. This is why the stores and restaurants with Trump placards bring out to go containers to the homeless on 6th street or hand them clean bottled water.

This is why that even though I barely make enough to give my daughter a comfortable existence provided by second-hand shops, consignment stores, and the goodwill I give money (usually 5 to 10 dollars) to those under the bridges. This is why even though I am a little girl (literally I'm barely 5'2" and weigh 98 lbs) and have a 5-year-old daughter I give rides to half crazed looking homeless men to shelters, councilors, etc while others with their co-exist stickers, Bernie tags, etc damn near run those people over.

You call conservatives bad, but in my life, in my experience, the worst examples of humanity have been those who have claimed to be the best.
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Re: Days like this I wonder what Phant and Steltek are up to

Postby Agent » Sun Aug 13, 2017 10:48 pm

I regret everything.
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Re: Days like this I wonder what Phant and Steltek are up to

Postby shadowmimiiru » Sun Aug 13, 2017 11:43 pm

Agent wrote:I regret everything.


I love you anyway, Agent. Afterall you ran the greatest D&D game I ever had the honor to play in.
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Re: Days like this I wonder what Phant and Steltek are up to

Postby Phantomgrift » Mon Aug 14, 2017 5:50 am

Honestly?

Busy.
In the middle of training, (Entertainingly enough, yes, back in Virginia, albeit Dam Neck vs. the nonsense in the news), after a cross-country move.

It's about as conservative as you can get though. Between helping building the groundwork for security procedures at one of our primary F-35 squadrons at the last command, and getting ready to go play with SEABEE's and ground-pounders at the next command, hence the training cycle.

I know I may have had my differences, but as has been pointed out, conservatives aren't any more or less inherently evil than any other group that's not at the extreme end of of the spectrum.

All things considered, I'm not a Nazi... Just a tired, cynical old man looking forward to retirement in the near future and the prospect of moving out far enough away from society that I dont have to deal with people for a while.

I would have posted sooner, but the old man in me straight up forgot my password after I got a new laptop a while back.
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Re: Days like this I wonder what Phant and Steltek are up to

Postby dexeron » Mon Aug 14, 2017 8:22 am

I'm a raging SJW, a rampaging liberal, sympathetic to communists, and could only ever be painted as a conservative when compared to Desp (let's face it, everyone's a conservative compared to Desp... love ya dude.)

And even so, this:

Agent wrote:I completely believe that Phant and Steltek (and Pere and Sorce and all the other gross assholes we used to hang out with) would murder, or worse, if they thought they could get away with it. They have no true morality, only fear of the afterlife.


...is pretty much the stupidest thing I've read this week.
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Re: Days like this I wonder what Phant and Steltek are up to

Postby dexeron » Mon Aug 14, 2017 8:27 am

Also, since I'm an equal opportunity offender:

shadowmimiiru wrote:It is unfair and wrong to paint all conservatives with the same brush. Allow me to paint all liberals with the same brush.


I get that you're reacting to Agent being needlessly antagonistic, but...

Also, GMOs have been thoroughly tested over decades and are incredibly safe (and the methods used to create them are far more precise and predictable, and lead to far fewer unintended - and potentially dangerous - traits than many so-called "organic" methods of selective breeding.) Also, Organic is nothing but a gigantic scam. In terms of scientific support and consensus, it's basically on the same level as belief in chemtrails, lizardmen, and the Flat Earth. It just happens to be more "respectable," because it's got a hell of a PR team.

Also also, the liberals you've described who treated you that way were assholes and need to be punched in the face.
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Re: Days like this I wonder what Phant and Steltek are up to

Postby Phantomgrift » Mon Aug 14, 2017 11:20 am

Seeing Dex defend me in any capacity is a little weird...

I don't fear the afterlife.
Surviving cancer, jaundice and septic shock kinda make you confront your own mortality.

If nothing else, my casual attitude towards my own morality apparently makes other people uncomfortable, especially those who aren't yet ready to face the notion that they will, one day, die.
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